Hurricane Irma may be gone, but her waters are not. Our now black river and the giant plume off the St Lucie Inlet attest to this. Clean rain that fell in our region during the hurricane is now filthy “stormwater” discharging, unfiltered, through manmade canals C-23, C-24, C-25, and C-44. Nature did not design the river to directly take this much water; this much water kills.
Every plume looks different, and this one is multilayered with no clear border. Sediment soup, black-brown in color, yesterday it extended out about 2/3 of a mile into a stirred up Atlantic and flowed south, in the rough waves not quite having made it to Peck’s Lake.
Since Hurricane Irma’s rains, area canals dug with no environmental foresight in the 1920s and 50s for flood control, and to facilitate agriculture and development, have been flowing straight into the river. On top of this, in anticipation of the hurricane, three days prior to IRMA the Army Corp of Engineers began discharging from Lake Okeechobee. During the hurricane they halted, and then started up again at high discharge levels reaching over (4000 cfs +/-) this past Friday, September 15th. As Lake Okeechobee rises and inflow water pours in from the north, and is blocked by the Everglades Agricultural Area in the south, we can expect more Lake O discharge on top of the canal releases themselves.
As advocates for the St Lucie River we continue the fight to expedite the building of the EAA reservoir and to create a culture to “send more water south.” In the meantime, we, and the fish and wildlife, and the once “most bio diverse estuary in North America,” suffer…
Links to lake O level and canal flows are below.
Lake Okeechobee level, 9-18-17: 15.50, http://w3.saj.usace.army.mil/h2o/currentLL.shtml
S-308 Lake O:http://w3.saj.usace.army.mil/h2o/plots/s308d.pdf
S-80 C-44 Canal:http://w3.saj.usace.army.mil/h2o/plots/s80d.pdf
C-23/S-97; C-24/S-49, & C-25/S-50: (click on highlighted S # arrow corresponding to canal to see discharge into river; for instance, C-23 is released through “S,” structure 97, so click on S-97 to see flows for C-23 canal) http://my.sfwmd.gov/portal/pls/portal/realtime.pkg_rr.proc_rr?p_op=FORT_PIERCE
My brother Todd, has complied many other links on his website’s favorites under St Lucie River and ACOE/SFWMD: http://www.thurlowpa.com/news.htm
Post Irma flight over St Lucie River/IRL 9-17-17






JTL 9-18-17
Reblogged this on Treasure Coast Free Press.
Also re-blogged by the phony boolshyters at Everglades Trust. Never a bigger fraud in Florida.
You don’t live in the impact zone do you Wayne? Did not think so.
Hi Jacqui – I hope you are doing well. I so enjoy reading your blog and today’s read prompted the same 2 questions that have been burning inside me for a while. It would be helpful perhaps to consider covering these questions, hopefully with some answers, in a future blog.
1. Why isn’t Big Sugar’s back pumping into the canals and Lake O illegal? To have 4B Gallons being pumped INTO Lake O from the south while 2B gallons are released going east just to us doesn’t seem right.
2. What is the status and capacity of the C-44 Reservoir and how soon before the water can be diverted into that basin?
Thanks so much and keep up the good work.
Best regards, Dennis
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Dennis, thanks for writing:
When flooding is present, emergency back pumping is allowed to protect the “lives and property” of people living near the lake. For decades the sugar industry back pumped as a regular practice. The regular practice of back pumping was stopped decades ago as Lake O’s health was so visibly in decline after so many years of polluted water being pumped back into the lake from the EAA.
The reservoir goal is to hold 240,000 to 360,000 acre feet of water, sent south to refill if possible if needed. As far as the numbers, the UF study recommends/ says one million acre feet of storage north and south of the lake is needed for discharges that of course vary from year to year, —-so 240-360K will not stop the river’s woes but it will help tremendously. In my opinion any water going south or not into the SLR/IRL is a positive step and can be built on. Here is an excerpt from the sun sentinel that may helP:
“Negron’s Proposal: A Path to Implementing a Crucial CERP Project
Storing water in the EAA is one of the keystone
components of CERP that has been part of the plan since
it was approved in 2000. The EAA Storage Reservoir project calls for storing about 360,000 ac/ (120 billion gallons) of water– holding water about 6 feet deep on 60,000 acres of land. This was slated to hold water from Lake Okeechobee and runo from EAA farms in the wet season.
Once stored, the reservoirs can link up with the network of man-made lter marshes called Stormwater Treatment Areas that remove phosphorus and other nutrients that are harmful to the plants and wildlife of the Everglades. Once clean, the water can be sent south to the Central Everglades where it will con nue its path through Everglades Na onal Park to Florida Bay. With the Central Everglades Project (CEP) and addi onal bridges on Tamiami Trail, moving ahead concurrently, obstruc ons to the southern ow of water will be removed.
Dennis the C44 will have little benefit during Lake O discharges. It will hold about 2 weeks worth of discharges of this scale, and will release nearly every drop back into the C44. It will be cleaner, but it is not a retention project– and we know that the freshwater, no matter how clean, is a pollutant because it ruins the salinity balance of the St. Lucie estuary. That is where the St. Lucie and Caloosahatchee differ.
Dennis:http://www.saj.usace.army.mil/Missions/Environmental/Ecosystem-Restoration/Indian-River-Lagoon-South/
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Janet Crews Coppoletta
Janet Crews Coppoletta Thanks Jacqui Thurlow-Lippisch!
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Blake Faulkner
Blake Faulkner The fear of a Hoover dike breech was very real and that was why the glades communities were under mandatory evacuation orders. But now that the threat has passed…no consideration of a third Lake O. outlet to a southern EAA storage/treatment reservoir will register with folks in those glades communities. They just will not connect those dots.
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook The flow south is not “blocked” by the EAA. There are canals that can move water south through the EAA. The 500,000 acre plus WCAs, STAs, FEBs etc. are all full and the EAA is flooded already to the point the USACE has been back pumping water into Lake O. Why? Simple. There is no water passage allowed under the Tamiami Trail that will drain the system and prevent the need for the USACE to send excess Lake water out the C 43. The EAA
farmers and urban areas do not control a single drop of water flowing out of Lake O. They want the water to flow south and off there land. South to Florida Bay. Who is stopping that flow? The restrictions imposed by the U S Dept. Of Interior.
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Cyndi Lenz
Cyndi Lenz we’re getting slaughtered. there are other ways to send water out like thru Boca and lakeworth. are those open/
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Cyndi Lenz
Cyndi Lenz we took it for the team because we were worried about the dike breaching. this would be a good day to not fight with people. and say thank you to us as we get destroyed. your welcome.
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook Yes, everything is wide open that can take water. Except for one place. A place where structures control every drop. Everglades National Park. The historical outlet for the high volumes during rain events. Now allowing only a limited flow south, actually a hard won “deviation” in the beginning, but no where near enough to drain the system and prevent the damaging discharges down the C 43.
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Cyndi Lenz Newton Earl Cook can u send me links when u have a sec please so we can se
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Blake Faulkner Will it take the actual reality of much more water flowing into Northeast Shark River Slough under the Tamiami Trail bridges in early 2018 to convince you that your broken record needs to be replaced with a new one, Newton? Yeah, we all know that it will. Wonder what the new Big Sugar shill tune will be?
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook It is sad that the estuaries get “slaughtered “. But, you do realize that is exactly the way the system was designed and built about 70 years ago. Has worked perfectly. If you want to stop the discharges out the C 43 and C 44 we have to have an alterna…See More
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Blake Faulkner You just refuse to learn anything about what MOD waters is doing. But you aren’t the only one who stays oblivious about the changes coming. I’m used to that by now. I’m the only one who has to keep bringing it up. So be it.
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook If you believe the new bridges at the Trail will change the control and rates of flow of water flowing through the Park, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sell. We cannot get the DOI to take even a measly 1700cfs of clean new water now available even in a dry time, much less the 18,000cfs plus needing to be flowing under the Trail today to help drain the system.
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Blake Faulkner
Blake Faulkner Forget Taylor Slough. That is a meaningless public relations gimmick by SFWMD. Nobody buys that 1700 cfs clean water delivery pitch. It isn’t a sustainable delivery for very long…given the limited source that Taylor Slough gets its water from. Tell Melanie Peterson to put on her cheerleader outfit and root for that P.R. gimmick if that will help you sell it.
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Michael Conner
Michael Conner Newton, you gotta admit, one or two of the “S” pumps that are backpumping are solely for taking water off the EAA, sugar fields right?
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook Yes. The USACE mission includes not flooding agriculture. See the Miss River system as well. Again. Why is back pumping needed? Not because the farmers or SFWMD are preventing the natural flow to Florida Bay. Let the water flow to Florida Bay. No back pumping needed! Who is stopping the water?
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Blake Faulkner The farmers and SFWMD (ie. Big Sugar’s hireling) are preventing natural flow to Florida Bay by opposing an adequate sized and designed EAA reservoir. Period.
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook $2.3 billion dollar reservoirs are not involved in “natural flow”. There is no flow allowed out of them beyond the current flow allowed south to Florida Bay. Simple fact. I support the EAA 1 and EAA 2 reservoirs. I know the SFWMD has supported them for…See More
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Blake Faulkner Natural in the sense of the same old direction of flow without it having to run-off EAA farm fields first. Natural in the sense of having filter marsh plants removing nutrients from the naturally eutrophic waters of Lake Okeechobee before the water con…See More
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Richard Trotta
Richard Trotta Newton Earl Cook , it has worked perfectly for the cane farmers and awful for the 7 million inhabitants south of the lake.
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Blake Faulkner http://www.flkeysnews.com/…/enviro…/article79625267.html
Work on 2nd Tamiami Trail bridge to start, goal is more water into Florida…
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Blake Faulkner It is absolute lying and deceit if not willful ignorance to push the idea that 18,000 cfs of water has to be able to flow under the Tamiami Trail or the MOD Waters project is a waste of money. That is basically what you claimed or implied above Newton….See More
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Blake Faulkner The farmers at Sugar Cane Growers Coop (the third big player in the EAA) were very upset that Governor Lawton Chiles made a deal through intermediaries to buy the 53,000 acre Talisman Tract from the St. Joe Company in 1996. Don’t give us your revisioni…See More
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Richard Trotta Blake Faulkner , Newton’s Law, ” Ethics and morals are unnecessary as long as the practice agrees with the cane farmers and the Koch Brothers”. The cane farmers are like supernatural beings in Newton’s mind.
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Newton Earl Cook Missing a while as I was in my deer stand crossbow hunting this AM and had a bar on my phone. First. I support MOD waters 100%. Where have I said otherwise? What has to be understood is that Mod Waters has nothing to do with helping the St. Lucie and …See More
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Richard Trotta
Richard Trotta Newton Earl Cook , I’ve been waiting your science on this matter for many months. Have you found anybody with a credentials to agree with you? No, because your premise is based in the deceit of your politics not in fiats of engineering.
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Newton Earl Cook Blake Faulkner The STAs were constructed to comply to the lawsuit requiring the SFWMD and farmers to clean the run off. Best Management Practices were imposed. I have never said the farmers did not come into the process kicking and screaming. But, that was then and the issue was clean water for Everglades National Park. Not stopping the damaging discharges out the C 43 and C 44.
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Blake Faulkner
Blake Faulkner Wrong again Newton…MOD waters was part of a larger, more comprehensive view of Everglades restoration needs that covered much more than benefits to Everglades National Park. I am very surprised (or am I?) to see you make such a ridiculous claim.
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Richard Trotta
Richard Trotta Newton Earl Cook , Consent Decrees ain’t kicking and screaming – they were under the force of law. Show me where it says that CERP and MOD waters were designed to solely benefit ENP?
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Blake Faulkner You didn’t even live in Florida until Jeb Bush was governor, Newton. You don’t do historical research to learn what was happening with attempts at Everglades restoration going back to the 1980s. Your main focus since you’ve been a Florida resident is getting recreational access to acreage owned by public/government agencies, mainly SFWMD. And making Florida a more friendly place for ducks and duck-hunters.
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Blake Faulkner OK, bear hunters too.
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Blake Faulkner I am not even gonna mention panthers.
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Blake Faulkner Ooops.
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook This is not a “science” problem. We have an engineering design that is doing exactly what was intended. Keeping the large urban developments and agricultural south of Lake O from flooding during rain events. That design had the C 43 and C 44 as safety…See More
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Richard Trotta Blake Faulkner , Key Deer, Panthers, Everglades mink … .
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook My objective has been the same since I became involved in trying to stop the damaging discharges to the St. Lucie over ten years ago, get the excess water during rain events to sea some other way than the C 43. Simple. That fixes the problem. The discharges mess up the trout fishing I like and other recreation.
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Blake Faulkner In 1955, the USACE had a plan for a southern outlet from Lake Okeechobee through the EAA and into the Everglades. This was what the engineers and hydrologists from USACE aleady knew in 1955 was necessary when they completed the Congressionally authoriz…See More
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Newton Earl Cook Blake Faulkner That is why I support a Flow Way from the Lake to the WCAs. Plan 6 was basically a good idea. I still speak for the need of the two projects needed. A new structure at the south end of the Lake that can handle at least 18,000cfs and a br…See More
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Blake Faulkner It does NOT have to handle 18,000 cfs. You keep repeating that notion as if it was written in stone and it is a ridiculous notion. A conveyance capacity of half that would be great. That’s closer to the realm of possibility. The lake can still hold a c…See More
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Richard Trotta
Richard Trotta Blake Faulkner , this ain’t about science for Newton. It’s about federalisms doctrines and dogma. All that ails America is in Washington, DC according to Newton and the Koch Brothers.
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Blake Faulkner http://www.nytimes.com/…/land-purchase-to-help-restore…
Land Purchase To Help Restore The Everglades
Clinton Administration and State of Florida…
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Blake Faulkner
Blake Faulkner Yeah Newton…Thanks for playing your same old broken record B.S. about the Tamiami Trail. Now let’s hear about the Cape Sable Seaside Sparrow too. Come on…I know you’ve got it in you.
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Cyndi Lenz
Cyndi Lenz Time for change is now!
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook Tell me Blake. Just were do the farmers in the EAA stop the water? At what structure in the EAA? Actually, the CSSS is not involved in this instance. Just the Federal rules regarding “wilderness” type protection. Some of that is the 10 ppb P. Some ju…See More
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Blake Faulkner Sad attempt at creating a strawman out of the people living west of the lake Newton. Your sales pitches are growing weaker and weaker.
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Blake Faulkner
Blake Faulkner They didn’t need to send water out the C-43 because Lake O. water level was still far below average level for this time of year. They didn’t want to dump too much in case the sugarcane farmers had another drought situation ‘crop up’ like we saw in the first half of 2017…
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Bobbi Blodgett
Bobbi Blodgett And back pumping continues.
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Newton Earl Cook
Newton Earl Cook That is simple BS. The west coast caught the worst of the storm and flooding. There was no room for Lake water. THAT WAS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DECISION. Why do you point the finger at “they”. “THEY” WAS NOT THE SFWMD NOR THE EAA FARMERS. This is the sort of mis information that has prevented proper attention to the TRUE agencies and people who CONTROL THE WATER so that the damaging discharges can be addressed.
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Cyndi Lenz
Cyndi Lenz would be a great day for real leadership at SFWMD, big sugar to give it up and be part of solution and not the problem and even for Gladeslivesmatter to see what reality is and today could be day one of everyone woking together for a solution for all of us. wishing outloud.
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Blake Faulkner The only way to get real leadership at the SFWMD is to get real leadership in the governor’s office in Tallahassee first. The Florida voters can make that happen in 2018. The only question is…will they learn from the mistakes of the past and will tho…See More
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Kathleen Kourie There’s got to be a better way, maybe sending the water south to the Everglades?
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Ken Lustig Back pump it straight to gov Scott’s house!
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Blake Faulkner I’ll just leave this 2+ year old Alan Farago article from HuffPo here as a refresher/reminder of what it has taken to get MOD waters project progress made over the many years since Congress authorized the project in 1989. Thanks to Obama in 2009…the …See More
Can America’s Everglades Catch a Break: Soon We Will See
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Blake Faulkner The flow of Everglades waters have been blocked by Tamiami Trail and large scale farming at the edge of the Everglades, creating flood protection conflicts with land owners, spurred by idiotic developments like the 8.5 Square Mile Area in western Miami…See More
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Blake Faulkner The legion of nay-sayers, stirred up by Big Sugar’s interests in keeping upstream water management priorities for its own benefits, have been steadily laying the groundwork to fight whatever results emerge from Mod Waters. Through Sunshine State News, …See More
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Patty Childs Thanks for the update, tragic as it is…
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hummmm…wonder if they took advantage of mother nature’s wrath to dump more than reported or needed…. jstsa’n River across from Bathtub beach looks miserable… so sad.
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Penny Lord Plus big sugar is back pumping their contaminated water into lake o
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Holly Hyatt The waves at Pecks yesterday were brown
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Deirdre Chitwood I totally agree and there seems there is nothing we can do about it. It pains me to think how much this is affecting our wildlife – or what is left of it!
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Rufus Wakeman After 30 years of seeing this occur in Martin county I have come to the conclusion that big sugar has outplayed everyone in this game …. They own everyone and with all their money and lobby and influence they have risen to the top of the heap….. Pe…See More
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Doc Snook 223…………….!!!
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Jon Burkard Spent some time this past weekend cleaning up the Indian River shoreline after the storm. The river just smells like death. This water is seriously polluted.
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Jacqui Thurlow-Lippisch Thx& awful
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Rufus Wakeman It’s just criminal what they’ve done
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And there goes the rest of kayak season…
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Boo Lowery if the new to be built maybe resivor had been built would it have stopped this dumping??? or would sending all this water south flooded the everglades and drowned all the wildlife ??? or do we need a NEW plan /???
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Newton Earl Cook Boo. The “new” reservoir would not have prevented the damaging discharges in 2013, 2016 nor what is happening today. The reservoir at best would take 4 inches off the Lake that is rising in feet. Static reservoirs fill up fast from rain, local drainage…See More
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Blake Faulkner A 360,000 acre-feet EAA reservoir on 60,000 acres of land like Joe Negron wanted would hold 120 billion gallons of water and could treat that water with filter marsh plants and release it southward towards Florida Bay when it was clean enough to go to …See More
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Newton Earl Cook Just what did the EAA farmers have to do with the problems at the 8.5 Square Mile Area? Nothing. The demonization of the farmers will not solve the need to protect the area. No doubt the area should never been “developed”. But you can say the same thi…See More
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Blake Faulkner The only person not understanding things, seemingly on purpose, is you Newton. The 8.5 Square Mile Area is one set of agricultural interests screwing up Everglades restoration efforts and the EAA is another set of agricultural interests screwing up Everglades restoration efforts. Nobody is confused by that but you.
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Deirdre Chitwood It seems we can collect information from Saturn but we can’t sort out this! My allergies are back. I can smell it in the air.
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Newton Earl Cook Sorry Blake. The 8.5 Mile Area is a separate situation versus the EAA. The farmers in the EAA are not blocking a single drop of water from flowing south to Florida Bay. That flow can create problems for the 8.5 Square Mile Area. That is a “work around”…See More
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Blake Faulkner Big Sugar in the EAA is who is blocking the creation of an adequate EAA reservoir. If the farmers in the EAA want to identify themselves as part of Big Sugar, then they are part of the problem…not the solution. Simple.
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Glenn Tonner SO,SO SAD THAT ALL OUR POLITICANS ARE ON THE TAKE !!
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Christopher Cooke Sad but I guess not sad enough for Washington
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What I see in vidio is how acid in fresh water is acting like a blow torch on the calcium sand in the ocean. in December look for lots of foam on tthe beachs as they turn to liquid calcium.. The historic lagoons shores did not have inlets that were dredged deep and held open with rock shores. The historic inlets were more like blow outs from and wash overs. Blow outs happened when (over thousands of years) rivers formed and blowed out inlets during wet seasons. Wash overs happened during tsunamis and hurricanes bringing calcium into the lagoon.
Jacqui— Have you noticed that all the big oak trees that blew over had no roots that ran deep? I believe acid in the soil is makeing it so these trees can not absorb the nutriants .down deep so their roots only run near the surface. All farmers know that calcium carbonate makes soil right for plants to absorb the nutriants.Maby they could inject calcium carbonate down deep so big oak trees roots will run deep and they will not blow over. Knowing how you like oak trees i was thinking that of all my commints this might be the one you like the most
Which oak tree particularly? Do you have a photo? We did not lose any in SP. Fascinating observation.
At the moment all my time and energy is makeing sure all the fresh water does not kill my baby coquina clams. I do this by letting calcium beach sand in fresh water run offs. I am certain it turns to calcium cloride salt. For gas money I sell saw palmetto berries. Right now they sell for 1.75 a pound and just a double hand full makes a pound. Here in brevard county the state government owns over half of the land and most of it is saw palmetto. Their is a world market for saw palmetto berries and the state not letting the citizens pick on THEIR land is costing the citizens of florida billions of dollars. What I really waunt to know is the connection by the state government and the destruction of the lagoon which also once brought billions of dollars to the citizens of Florida…
Dear Jacqui, Just a short note to let you know that I really enjoy and appreciate your newsletter. Not being in Jensen Beach full time it is a great way to keep up with all that is going on in regards to the health of the beautiful area we have the privilege to call home. I have a few properties on Indian River Drive and truly love the area. I in fact bought and renovated one of the oldest surviving homes on the drive (used to be the “Croton Nursery” – first house south of Walton. I will be in Jensen Beach the first week of October if you had any interest to see the home. I am the VP & MD for Hyatt hotels in China and have been going to JB since I was about 5 years old! Keep up the great efforts and make it a wonderful week ahead Chris Koehler
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I gave a letter to a politician who said HE would fix the lagoon today. I also walked on state land today and saw thousands of pounds of saw palmetto berries rotting and falling on the ground. In the letter i said I believe it is the same government bad attitude that destroyed the lagoon that is NOT letting the citizens of Florida pick berries on THEIR land. It is no wonder we are 20 trillion in dept to China. 3 days ago I was in line to sell berries and the lady in front of me selling with her son(I think) had her hands togather like she was praying. You could see the happyness all over her face as she told the guy we will be back with more. It looked like she sold about 500 pounds a 1.50$ per pound. I believe when people finally open their eys as to why we are 20 trillion in dept it will not be pretty.
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Yesterday I was on my boat in sebastion river. It is all fesh water now. As I went I preformed saline test along the way(I tasted the water). The mehadden minnows seemed to like it best when there is just a little salt(probably calcium cloride). I did see birds diveing in many places. It has been a while since I put sand in here but I now intend to do it again when the current slows down.
I hope you will do the same there
I think they need to stop spraying lakemail of and that will help with a lot of the pollution and age blooms
Yes need to send the water south like it’s supposed to
When the manitee and porpus wake up in the morning their lives depend on finding something to eat that day. The pelicans herons sea gulls and many more birds also need to find food to survive another day.Our state govenment with all their lies—laws—-and theorys brings only death dispair and destruction not only to all the creatures but to the citizens of this state as well
Tragic
Jacqui—- it can all be brought back—- I am certain!!!!
So this is why all the fish in our canal died 🙁 I called it in & was told that it was a “Fish Kill”. It was the saddest thing I’ve ever witnessed 🙁
It is awful. Sorry you had to see it.
Yesterday at our lagoonhouse I suggested to the whale lady ,that if they put a microphone underwater and played the sound of killer whales on the hunt that the few remaining right whales would run from the ships and not be getting hit. I have said so very many times that fine calcium sand will release desolved oxygen into the water and stop fish kills but I feel they just ignor me because they are doctors and I am just a fisherman